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CONTENT QUESTIONS:

Q:  Is the honey pasteurized?

A:  Yes
 
Q:  Sodium content?

A:  3.66 mg per 10 ml

 

Q:  Is there any Vitamin K in the formula?

A:  There are no detectable levels of Vitamin K in either formula.

 

Q:  Do these tonics contain P-Phenylenediamine?

A:  No, they do not.

 

Q:  Is there any carmine in the iron tonics?

A:  Carmine is an insect based colorant.   We do not use this.

 

Q:  How much bitter orange extract is in the Floradix formula?

A:  7 mg of crude herb per dose of 10 ml

 

Q: Source of iron in ferrous gluconate?

A: It is mined from the ground as iron ore.

 

Q:  Is there Vitamin C in Floradix/Floravit?

A: Yes, but not listed under med ingredients, because there is very little in it – approx 60 mg/daily dose. Helps absorption and preservation of the iron, but because of iron content it is not very stable, so the amount may vary.

 

Q:  What is the level of Vitamin K in either tonic?

A:  Both products contain - if any - only traces of Vitamin K. Vitamin K is naturally in herbal plants and fruit juices, which are also part of these products. Since the amount of Vitamin K in these ingredients is very low and no Vit K is added to the product no assay is carried out. Therefore, the Vitamin K content is more than likely not detectable.

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CONTRA-INDICATION QUESTIONS

Q: Thalassemia minor and the tonic?

A: This is an illness where the body cannot utilize iron to make haemoglobin, so Floradix is contra-indicated.

 

Q: Are there any contraindications with Floradix, or Floravit and people with kidney disease?

A: Yes, these tonics have a substantial amount of Potassium as well as some Phosphorus in them.
Floradix - per 10 ml - 25 mgs potassium and 2.5 mgs phosphorus     
Floravit - per 10 ml - 16.3 mgs potassium and 1.76 mgs phosphorus

 

Q: Angelica root - contra-indicated for pregnant women? 

A: According to Government regulations (in Germany) – Non-medicinals cannot be over 10%.  There are only 1.39% non medicinals in the tonics. In 2-4 g per cup of tea Angelica root is contra-indicated, but not in the minute amounts in Floradix. In the tonic there are 18.5 mg of a 33:1 aqueous extract of 9 different plants.  Of these angelica is only 0.41%. In this amount, Angelica facilitates the digestive process and digestion of iron.

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DOSAGE AND USAGE QUESTIONS

Q: When to take if a meal consists of a lot of dairy or calcium?

A: Take the tonic about ½ hour before the meal, and make sure to take it with juice that is high in Vitamin C

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HEALTH QUESTIONS

Q:  Does it cause constipation?   

A:  No, but drinking lots of water, and eating reconstituted prunes helps. 

 

Q:  Does it interfere with thyroid meds?   

A: No, but take them at separate times.

 

Q:  Gluten Free? 

A:  Floravital: no gluten, no lactose, and no hydrolized plant proteins. Floradix: contains wheat germ dry extract for additional B - vitamins.  note: This wheat germ extract is gluten free.

 

Q:  Diabetic information: 

Carbohydrate/glucose content of Floradix: 22.47%  

A:  In 10 ml you get 0.2 BU of carbs, and since 1 BU (Bread Unit) = 12 g glucose, 10 ml = approx 2.4 g glucose

 

Q:  I am 2-3 months pregnant.   Floradix gives me terrible stomach acid.  I tried Floravit with the same results.  I need the iron, so what suggestions do you have?

A: The digestive tract slows down with pregnancy and so acid reflux is more common.  It is best to take it just after a meal, and not away from food, as food is needed in the stomach to tolerate it.  Many women struggle taking iron the first three months but it improves in the second trimester.  Capsules can be even worse.

 
Q:  Is it okay to take iron all the time?

A: If you have not been diagnosed as anemic, you should not be taking an iron supplement at all.  The determining factor in continuing to take an iron supplement is whether your haemoglobin and your serum ferritin levels have been brought back to normal.  The only way to determine this is to have these levels tested by a doctor.  We are not physicians.

 
Q: How much iron is actually absorbed from the amount of tonic taken per day?

A: The amount of iron absorbed, from any iron supplement taken, varies with the acid used to extract the mineral from the source material, it also varies from person to person, and when it is taken can also make a difference. In most cases taking a max of 10 mls per dose will give the body the chance to absorb as much iron as it needs at that time.  Many times the body will absorb a maximum of 5 mg iron from one dose. Taking it with a juice rich in Vitamin C will increase the amount absorbed. The best time to take the tonic is 5 – 10 minutes before a meal. This way the iron has access to the greatest amount of digestive juices as possible for maximum absorption, needed, since iron is one of the toughest substances for the body to digest. Given these facts, then taking 10 mls before each meal, and a final one before bedtime, will give the body access to 35 mgs of elemental iron.  Whether or not it will absorb that amount is another question altogether, and depends on too many variables to give an accurate answer.

The proof is in the results, and from all the data that has been gathered on these iron tonics over the years, they appear to have the best results when looking at increased hemoglobin and serum ferritin levels.

 

Q:  Does Floradix affect the ferritin levels in the body?

A:  From Taber's "Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary" - Ferritin:  An iron-phosphorous-protein complex containing about 23% iron.  It is formed in the intestinal mucosa by the union of ferric iron with a protein "apoferritin".  Ferritin is the form in which iron is stored in the tissues, principally in the reticulo-endothelial cells of the liver, spleen, and bone marrow. Since this iron is produced in the intestinal mucosa, which is where the Floradix is absorbed, it is most likely that it can increase the ferritin iron levels.

 

Q: Can it cause dental staining?

A: The iron compound, that has been documented to cause staining of the teeth, is ferrous fumarate.  Ferrous sulphate is also suspected, since it is an inorganic iron compound as is the fumarate. The ferrous gluconate, the compound from which the elemental iron in Floradix comes, is much less prone to do this. In fact, according to statistics, there have been over 50 million bottles of Floradix iron sold world wide, and no known cases of permanent tooth enamel staining have been attributed to the product. The only way the tonics could potentially cause any staining is if the enamel coat is not strong enough. Taking the tonic just before a meal, and brushing the teeth and tongue right after the meal, can help avoid this problem. The following points are suggestions from Salus Haus to deal with these infrequent cases: Brush the teeth with:

1) Abrasive toothpaste – (occasionally only). It's not recommended to do this after every intake of iron tonic, because it could harm the enamel. It would be better to use a milder alternative (ie: "WELEDA Sole toothpaste" ("Sole" = saltwater, brine) as a support in dental hygiene. I hope that the products of the German company WELEDA are available in Canada.

2) Citric acid; a white powder that can be easily dissolved in water and available in every pharmacy.

3) Lemon juice - the natural version of point 2.  Both, citric acid and lemon juice can be used regularly without problems.

4) An enamel strengthening toothpaste. When brushing the teeth – ALSO brush the tongue.

5) Another possibility would be to take the iron tonic with a straw .

6) Finally, an alternative would be to take the iron tablets instead of the tonic. These dissolve only in the gastrointestinal tract.

 

Q: Should persons with Cancer take iron supplements?

A: Iron is a "rate-limiting" nutrient for infective entities such as bacteria: During infections our bodies increase blood levels of lactoferrin to allow increased withdrawal of iron from active circulation, thereby limiting bacterial growth. Infection is a possible route of cancer etiology and limiting infection by limiting iron availability may be of use. Iron is a potent generator of free radicals. Free radicals act to promote cancer by directly damaging DNA and by activating NF-Kappa-B, which leads to transcription errors (cancerous cell production from normal and intact DNA). Iron is a necessary nutrient for the growth of bacteria. When you limit iron supplies available to bacteria, you limit its ability to reproduce, thereby limiting its rate of growth. All forms of iron will be suspect and are to be limited.

 

Q: Can a person on chemotherapy take Floradix?

A: Anemia is a common side affect of chemotherapy treatment. It affects 60% of patients undergoing chemotherapy, because although chemotherapy kills cancer cells, it also kills off healthy cells. Red blood cells and digestive tract cells are particularly affected because they are rapidly dividing cells. The ability of the digestive tract to absorb nutrients is compromised during treatment because digestive cells are being destroyed.  Therefore, using a liquid iron like Floradix is an advantage, because the absorption is rapid. Chemotherapy also affects the ability of the bone marrow to produce new red blood cells. A review of 60 cancer studies found that anemic cancer patients had reduced survival times for various malignancies. It has yet to be established if treatment of anemia improves survival, but it suggests the need to correct anemia. Anemia is something that should be monitored by a physician.

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MANUFACTURING QUESTIONS

Q: Is the iron in the tonic slow release?

A: It is somehow mistakable, to speak of slow or fast releasing iron in the case of Floradix. Slow or fast releasing pharmaceutical preparations are e.g. tablets. There is a difference between fast effect through fast release respectively retarded effect through slow release of the active ingredient. In the case of the liquid Floradix, the iron is present in dissolved form and is at the body's disposal completely and immediately for absorption, i.e. it is already released. In the case of tablets, the active ingredient has to be released first and then dissolved. So a fast or slow release is technologically controllable. Absorption of iron takes place within the duodenum and upper jejunum. An absorption already in the stomach does not take place.

 

Q: Why is the B12 not increased?

A: The levels were agreed upon between Flora and Salus, based on the recommended intake of B12 in Canada.

 

Q:  What sweeteners are used in the tonics?

A: Floradix – honey and pear, red grape, black currant, orange, blackberry, cherry, beet juice concentrates. Floravit - grape, pear, blackcurrant, cherry, blackberry and carrot juice concentrates

 

Q: What are the levels of the various herbs in the tonic?  Can these cause problems with serious health conditions?

A: All of the herbs used in the Salus Tonics are included for the purpose of digestion and absorption of nutrients. They are not at medicinal levels.  Therefore, unless the consumer is allergic to the herb, the tonics are safe to use

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STORAGE QUESTIONS

Q: Can the tonic be frozen?

A: We cannot guarantee the quality if you freeze the tonic, although the active ingredients will not be changed.  If you still want to do this, I would suggest you measure out 10 mls, and pour this into one section of a plastic ice cube tray.  Fill each section with the same amount, freeze and then store the cubes in a glass container in the freezer.  This will give you portion sized ice cubes that can be added to juice etc when you take it.

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PACKAGING QUESTIONS

Q: What is meant by:  the variety of iron contained in Floradix comes from vegetables, and hence is non toxic (as opposed to iron from meat)? 

A: When the body detects it has enough iron, a mechanism takes place that prevents more iron from being assimilated?

Q: Given the above info, why then is there a "keep out of reach of children" warning on your Floradix bottles, saying it contains enough iron to alter severely a child's health?

A: The first part of your answer addresses the mechanism: This in relation to iron overload and heart disease.  Heme (animal) iron as been linked with iron overload and plant iron has not.  If you take the dosages recommended on the box, once your iron levels are normal the iron stores level plateaus, because of a feedback mechanism that shuts off absorption if your body has enough iron stores. However,  if you take large doses of iron at once,  the body can absorb more because some will be absorbed straight through the digestive lining (called passive diffusion) which bypasses this feedback mechanism. Basically - at really high doses, the absorption can be pushed to go higher. The dosages we recommend for adults are non-toxic and cannot cause iron overload over time. 

You can see in the chart below, that you absorb less iron at high doses, however more mg still get through.
Daily Dose of Iron - Absorbtion
35mg - 40% 14mg
105mg - 24% 25mg
195mg - 18% 35mg
390mg - 12% 45mg

The second part of your answer addresses the children's issue: 
In children, research shows that high amounts of iron in one dose are toxic to the digestive tract, cardiovascular system and central nervous system. 
< 20mg/kg  is non-toxic for a child
20-60 mg/kg  is mild to moderately toxic for a child
200-250 mg/kg   is life threatening

For example, a single 250 ml sized bottle of Floradix contains 250 mg/iron.
- a 20 kg child (44 lb) x 20 mg (non-toxic) means that child could ingest 400 mg of iron all at once and still be in the non-toxic range.   So even if the child drank a whole bottle of Floradix it would be okay. A 10 kg child (22 lbs), would only be able to consume 200ml (200 mg) before moving into the mild toxic range. 

As a caution, we advise that it be put "out of the reach of children", so they cannot ingest too much at one time, even though it would be difficult to overdose with our product. It depends on the weight of the child so it is primarily a pre-caution for small children. All reputable iron products have this caution, because accidental iron ingestion is a common problem with children if they can reach the medicine.  Last year we had a little boy who ingested 1/2 bottle of Floradix and he was not anywhere near the toxic range. But it is better to have a precaution on the product to ensure that a small child does not ingest too much. 

The precaution is also for ingestion of too much iron at one time from any source, as this can still cause problems. The iron is non-toxic if the reference is to its being plant based and taken in the dosages recommended.

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MISCELLANEOUS QUESTIONS

Q:  Good food sources of iron?
  
A: Dark green leafy vegetables, dried fruits, kelp, brewers yeast and molasses.

 

Q: Are the tonics registered as Kosher?

A: Floradix and Floravit boxes now have a Kosher symbol on them. It is in the right hand corner of the label.

 

Q: Kosher vs non-Kosher - What is the significance of this?

A: "Because the Floradix and Floravit are mixed with a certain content of grape juice, according to the HLACH, they can be used for convalescent people as a general fortifier.  In order to use it in this way, you prepare half a glass of water and mix the recommended dosage into the water."

– This is the exact statement from the Kosher certificate.

 

Q:  What is the difference between these two?

A: Floradix: Ferrous elemental iron – from a gluconate compound plus iron from a biologically active nutritional yeast. These will give 10 mgs of iron from 10 mls of the tonic. This yeast does NOT feed candida.

Floravit (Gluten free): Ferrous elemental iron – from a gluconate compound to give 10 mgs per 10 mls of tonic. This formula has no yeast and no wheat germ in it, so it is gluten free. It is absorbed about 2-3% less efficiently than Floradix

 

Q: Is ferrous malate as good as ferrous gluconate?

A: Malate is a very good form of iron in term of absorption. I do not have any info on direct comparison to gluconate but they should be very comparable. Malic acid enhances absorption of iron if present in diet.

 

Q:  Is the Iron in the liquid or tablets "Heme-iron"?

A: Heme iron is from meat.  It has a 40% absorption rate with normal digestion. This is the type of iron that liver extract tablets are based on. To get the RDI of iron this way, you would need to eat 2.2 lbs (1 Kg) of red meat every day. Non-heme iron is plant or, most often, rock sourced (iron ore), its absorption depends on the type of acid used to extract it. The iron in both the Floradix and Floravit is extracted with gluconic acid (ferrous gluconate). In the Floradix there is additional iron produced from a yeast-based fermentation process.

 

Q: Plastic tops very hard to remove, when will you be getting new lids?

A: Due to the iron content in the product, it is our duty to include a child proof cap to the box. On the box, the customer is asked to exchange the metal screw cap for the plastic safety cap after having opened the bottle. The customer should make sure the bottle neck is cleaned after use. If not, the cap may stick to the bottle due to tonic remains on the bottle neck, complicating the opening of the bottle. If the bottle can be stored out of the reach of children, the metal cap can be retained.

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